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MokiNS says...
9 years ago
this better not end up being another "Ascension"
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Reply by blue_magician
9 years ago
Ascension... What a total waste of time!
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lunatee says...
9 years ago
Just finished watching the pilot and I have to say, WOW!! This show is so much better than other sci-fi/space related shows that came out earlier this year. The first show has gripped me and I'm looking forward to watching the rest of the reason. Do NOT pass this up. Must watch even if you aren't a fan of space related shows!!
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fvr-deleted-1483869193 says...
9 years ago
omg what a cool scishow finally something complex and bold. they say it's the show that's standing up to BsG, but I say it's time we had a space opera that's worthy.
also, I'm amazed how many details they can cram up inside a pilot without getting it too overloaded.
a big plus for me are the space cam sequences and the sfx are eye candy.
a minus is the fact that even today's tv shows can't avoid this trap: there's no soundwaves in space, the vacuum has no air to propell the sound. so why the frak do we always hear big booms and afterburners ?
all in all, this is one to keep your eyes on.
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Reply by laxasaurusrex
9 years ago
I agree with you on the sound in space aspect. I think technically you may get some minuscule sound as there are particles in space but nothing like in shows. As well as other waves but that's beside the point.<br /> <br /> Sound in space is kind of a trope like the idea you can just knock someone out using chloroform is totally fake you'd have to hold it against the mouth for about ten minutes. It's just kind of traditional to have the pew pew of lasers and that boom of an afterburner.<br /> Plus it feels like it would be too odd for most people to just have these silent shots, but gravity did it and people liked it.
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Reply by WalterBishopj
9 years ago
Don't forget firefly that should did a nice trick with the no sound in space. Way before gravity
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Reply by leetwanker
9 years ago
Don't mean to nit-pick but I don't think afterburners on spacecraft would, by definition, do anything except waste fuel as there's no oxygen in space. <br /> <br /> I try not to notice things like hearing explosions in space, I'd rather just enjoy the show without worrying about them getting everything perfect. But keep in mind that you'd still hear the engines of any craft you were in as long as there was atmosphere in it.
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Reply by Curtwagner1984
9 years ago
I agree with everything except that BGS was an incomprehensible cluster f*** of plotholes from season 3 onwards ...
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Reply by kvirusp
8 years ago
@fvr-deleted-1483869193 The show is great, they blended decent CGI with pretty good acting ... there are however 2 problems for it to be the next BSG<br /> 1.They cut out a lot of material that made you really connect with the characters in the books .. but that can be fixed using flashbacks and other methods i guess, i understand why they did it, they had to get things going fast to get a fallowing and they were limited by the 10 episode order from the network .. it seams they are trying to fix this by adding on more episodes in the second season.<br /> 2. They are burning trough material fast and if they don't get the episode count up in every season it will catch up to the original writer's material and then go off script and we'll get stuck with something like the original SGU .. great idea, great implementation but it just loses fallowing.<br /> <br /> Hope this lasts, also the best thing i loved from the books was Chrisjen Avasarala, the character was bold and quite foul mouthed, putting everyone around her in their place, she was the invisible hand that moved in behind the scenes and got shit done, the way she was written was genius, the foul mouth grandma who not only played with the men, but brought them to their knees, something they toned down to an extreme in the series, i hope they fix this and realize that she and "the detective" were what really made the series stand out.
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Reply by bmiller315
8 years ago
@fvr-deleted-1483869193 Interstellar did a really good job of dealing with sound waves in space. There's a scene where air floods into a room and as it does you start to hear sirens etc...very cool.
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Reply by Lainfan
8 years ago
@fvr-deleted-1483869193 Sound in space (nearly) always gets done wrong. To make that part faithful is more a bonus point than a condition. At least it is for me.<br /> It is way easier to make a movie or series while ignoring the limitations of a vacuum, in stead of having to think of something to replace it (in case you don't want to create tons of dead silent shots.) You need to get really inventive, become limited in what you can do with shots and audio and it certainly influences the feel of a film heavily. Sound is a big part in film and it is exceptionally difficult to NOT use it. Think of it as trying to make a movie like Lord of the rings with only practical effects. Or a Die Hard movie without Bruce Willis :P Yes it is possible, but it is really hard.
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Reply by xelra
7 years ago
@fvr-deleted-1483869193 The "sound in space problem" is definitely a hard problem to solve for directors. There's no easy solution to it. While I agree that in The Expanse it's one of its flaws, the question is how to do it right.<br /> <br /> There are two possible solutions I can think of that both aren't perfect. The first one would be to treat the camera as some kind of god's eye, a position where a human could never be, but somehow receive visual "reception". Then we wouldn't have any sound, yes. No human, even in the future, could ever experience that though.<br /> <br /> Another solution is to treat the camera as the eyes of someone drifting in space in a space-suit. There you would have sound. It's not the same as we're used to though. The director would need to have a long and hard talk with a physicist advisor and come up with some models of how the sound would be perceived. For example when an engine starts up. At first there wouldn't be any sound. But then taking into account the trajectory and intensity of particles and possible shockwaves, what kind of sound would be hearable in your space-suit? And would the viewer accept this awkward other world?
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Reply by 77
5 years ago
@fvr-deleted-1483869193 The audio would probably be a bit boring if there was no sound at all whenever they showed anything in space. I thought that Battlestar Galactica handled that well by having sparse sound during their space combat scenes.
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Reply by Guyon Thecouch
5 years ago
@xelra "Another solution is to treat the camera as the eyes of someone drifting in space in a space-suit. There you would have sound."... Nope.
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T.Cash says...
3 years ago
It took me a while to realize the expanse is the best show I've ever seen, I love the wire, sopranoes, thrones, but for me personally, this is it
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whos_ur_buddha says...
5 years ago
Season 4 was visually stunning, prob one of the best shows so far from that perspective. Story wise, kind of lacking. Not much progression, entire season felt like it’s a setup for season 5. I would recommend watching season 4 for sound & visual effects. Beyond that don’t expect too much from the writing.
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Reply by dewille
5 years ago
@d0ndada I loved 1st season - seriously loved. S02 was not so good but still awesome. 3rd was 6.5 and 4th 7/10. I'm disappointed by how they rolled series out unfortunately
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chazTV says...
8 years ago
Pretty good for SyFy. Some good episodes, some filler episodes -- reminiscent of Galactica. Makes me appreciate the 10-second skip ahead function of my 4th-gen AppleTV remote... there's some entertaining stuff, separated by a lot of filler -- 10 second skip-clicks are a perfect companion for "The Expanse", unless you're arthritic -- then you'll wish there was an option to increase incremental skipping. The only parts I'd never fast forward through are any with Shohreh Aghdashloo... she hypnotized me as Dina Araz, the unsuspecting Iranian mother-of-a-terrorist in season 4 of "24" -- seeing her in a scifi role borders on orgasmic. She's a drag queen icon waiting to happen, something immediately apparent with the line, "get him a proper scotch please, Lagavulin"... ;-)
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laoliqin says...
9 years ago
Interesting setting, but the first season certainly seemed a little lengthy and this is why I cannot with good conscience rate this any higher than 7/10. It seems like season 2 is in the makings... Honestly, I am ambivalent towards this. It is not the kind of Space Sci-Fi I imagined it would be. Actually, I am disappointed. Maybe I wouldn't be disappointed if not the lengthy feel of season 1 combined with a lack of imagination or rather a lack of direction. This is because at the end of the day nothing really happened here.

Character development and background is there!
The cast's performance is good and doesn't make you doubt them for one moment.
The music is... I don't care.
The story starts off well but quickly turns into a boring shithole with no chance of a plot resolution/development anytime soon.

I still like it though and I hope they will prove me wrong in season 2!
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Reply by jamatiknakmuay
9 years ago
Quote: "cast's performance is good"<br /> Not just good, very good, and this by new, quite young, unknown actors! -<br /> <br /> Quote: "disappointed", "the lengthy feel", "lack of imagination", "lack of direction", "nothing really happened", "music is... I don't care", "story starts off well but quickly turns into a boring shithole" -<br /> You just watch the show with 1 eye, didn't you!? I'm proud to disagree with you in every aspect you name. Looks like you want to make your opinion things look like objective things just to write a review style.<br /> <br /> This is the first real sci-fi show in years! It is no action series the whole time. Technically scifi is either a distopia or utopia, not even has to have any action, technical or future stuff in it. Obviously its for a mature audience which has patience and understands the superb deep storytelling. In contrary the beginning is a bit boring, because of the must of explaining every party and character in this complex system, but if you get the direction, you see the perfectly undisappointed Imagination of humans and their behavior in a future scifi setting with fantastic CGI in TV, you don't saw since BSG. Later they even change the genre going from political over mystery to a more horror style in the end of season 1. The music is good and in scenes you need to get the atmosphere there is no music at all. But there is sound in space, that's the only unrealistic. And there are no lengthy things, every scene connects to the story by time. Indeed there is happening much. But if once got used and brainwashed to dumped down "scifi" being in fact action from J.J.Abrahams and Roland Emerich, once can miss all these overwhelming details. Nothing is like it seems and the route is the goal.<br /> <br /> Otherwise I would suggest just to watch the last episode of every show!
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Reply by laoliqin
9 years ago
Just because you disagree with someone... doesn't mean you have to be a big bully. <br /> <br /> I whole-heartedly agree with you on the parts where I have not stated my own opinion.<br /> In many respects your opinion is no different than mine, but the Internet hates assholes. Now, this part is crucial so do not misunderstand— don't behave like an asshole if you expect a reply/discussion. You're hurting others and yourself. I understand that many folks online are assholes and this often puts people in an offensive position, but don't be a bully and don't silence people just because you happen to disagree. You and your opinion are important, but are not part of the Holy Trinity and certainly not the center of the universe.<br /> <br /> If you're gonna insult people and imply that you are mature and not brainwashed while others who hold a different opinion must be the opposite, then it is not me but you who needs to "mature". <br /> <br /> In plain text, your text is filled with imputations and assumptions and I do not appreciate it. We can discuss why we disagree and have fun exchanging our many opinions, but this is not your "Mom, wait, the man on the Internet is wrong" hour and not a battleground. I don't get how you can write a longer opinion, add some heavy spice and expect a nice discussion.<br /> <br /> I understand your behavior might have been that (very stupid) way because you enjoyed the show and just felt differently. You even took time to write a longer reply, which is not only about bullying and implying stuff, but I am sure that if you cut the bully-stuff people would be more inclined to meet you in the middle. I mean, what you wrote is fine, I agree and all, but.. dude, cut the crap! Don't insult people, even if it isn't a direct insult. I don't believe you were looking for a swearword contest... I mean, I hope you didn't! I've seen people looking for an argument, I hope that wasn't it. The way was right though... just not with me. <br />
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dft-pnk says...
9 years ago
I've just finished to watch the four episodes, and I've to say, It's been a long time - too long - since I've been thrilled and amazed with SF serie. And yes: this is from SyFy...

If you love Politics, Space Opera and Riots about "Corporation"... You should definitely watch it or at least, give it a try...

PS: I just hope it will continue as it started, I have great expectations with this show.
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Rundl3 says...
3 years ago
I thought there is no way any producer could end a series as bad as 'Game of Thrones,' but seriously this one is an all time low. I am honestly stunned Amazon let it end on episode 6 and calling it a finale.

Please Amazon stick to shipping boxes, cus my gawd you really know how to suck the life out of art.
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Reply by xaliber
3 years ago
@rundl3 yeah ironically it was way better when it was on Syfy.
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Tallion says...
3 years ago
Overall a pretty good scifi space show. Seasons 1 thru 3 had a great scifi story line and action. Season 4 moved more into a drama set in space while season 5 was a total shit show. The whole Naomi story line was basically an 8 hour lifetime channel movie of the week. it really kind of kills the whole series. They wrapped it up in season 6 by getting back to the space scifi and had an overall satisfying ending but then left a pretty big cliffhanger/open question about just what was going on the planet Laconia.
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Reply by thomas.a.roche
3 years ago
@tallion Exactly how I felt about the whole thing.
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Sea Wolfe says...
3 years ago
Watch Season 1-3 and skip the rest
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human_boulder says...
5 years ago
This one felt very claustrophobic. Camera is always up people's faces or backs, weird angles, doesn't show what you actually want to see, background is blurred. There is this obnoxious blue "sci-fi filter" in all the scenes set in space and belt it hurts my eyes to watch this. Couldn't get past 25 mins of episode 1.

Edit: After a lot of getting used to the camera work and blue color gradient in subsequent episodes, I finally got used to it and watched the whole thing. This is one of the best tv shows ever.
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Smittayy says...
5 years ago
The attention to detail that everyone involved puts into this series is impeccable to physics to the cinematography it really is hands down one of the best sci-fi television series out there right now.
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sunny_senpai says...
7 years ago
Thought it's another over-dramatic Sci Fi soap opera, but god I was so wrong. It's probably one of the best Sci Fi's with special effects and close realism I've seen recently. Each episode has good amount of plot and rarely a dull moment.

Can't wait for another season, guess I have to read the books now.
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player8472 says...
4 years ago
This show is what diversity should always look like.
A byproduct of telling a compelling story - not an agenda which has to be upheld.

Make more shows like this, shows one can be proud of not (just) because it has a diverse cast but because they are actually good.
Casting "diverse" characters isn't an acomplishment - making actually good/great TV is!

I love next to all characters on this show and the ones I don't, I at least love to hate. (Inaros to name one...).
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m4cc says...
4 years ago
Best plot ever... worst actors ever.
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Reply by dia6olo
4 years ago
@m4cc Agree with you.<br /> Very good series, I'm enjoying it but I do have to say that it is somewhat spoiled by some of the acting which I find to be very poor with some of the characters.<br /> I don't know any of these actors so I can't comment on them as actors in terms of what they have done before. However, I found myself disliking a few of the key players as the series progressed because of the sterile acting and when I say sterile I really mean poor acting.<br /> There are at least 3 of the key players whose acting is unconvincing and very off-putting to me which is making it very difficult for me to connect with their characters and for me anyway, detracting from the series...
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